Oliva sp from Cuba
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11-16-2009, 06:48 PM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
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11-17-2009, 11:41 AM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
Could be another bifasciata but a clearer photograph would help.
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11-17-2009, 11:42 AM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
Also an apertural view and size would be useful.
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11-18-2009, 03:40 PM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
<img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/olram9/Miscellaneous/Someoliva.jpg" alt="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/olram9/Miscellaneous/Someoliva.jpg" style="border:0" />
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11-19-2009, 11:06 AM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
I beg to differ I am afraid, they lump too many species together. I follow Sterba 2003.
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11-19-2009, 05:00 PM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
OK, you can differ. Â No need to beg. Â I don't bite. Â At least we appear to agree this is the same shell. Â Others seem to have an opinion too. Â Gary Rosenberg (Malacolog) doesn't synonymize them, and in fact considers <i>O. bifasciata</i> to be a junior synonym of <i>O. formosa</i> Marrat 1870 along with
<i>Oliva bollingi </i>Clench, 1934 <i>Oliva greenwayae </i>Clench, 1937 <i>Oliva pattersoni </i>Clench, 1945 <i>Oliva jenseni </i>Petuch & Sargent, 1986 <i>Oliva magdae </i>Petuch & Sargent, 1986 Take care, Â |
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11-20-2009, 10:14 AM,
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Oliva sp from Cuba
I think we can both agree that a whole lot more work needs to be done with the Caribbean Oliva, maybe mitochondrial DNA sequencing will shed some light on the matter.
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