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Oliva sp from Cuba - j.de sousa - 11-16-2009 <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/7760635" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/7760635">http://www.badongo.com/pic/7760635</a><!-- m --></a> Oliva sp from Cuba - dave r - 11-17-2009 Could be another bifasciata but a clearer photograph would help. Oliva sp from Cuba - dave r - 11-17-2009 Also an apertural view and size would be useful. Oliva sp from Cuba - marlo - 11-18-2009 <img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/olram9/Miscellaneous/Someoliva.jpg" alt="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l110/olram9/Miscellaneous/Someoliva.jpg" style="border:0" /> Oliva sp from Cuba - dave r - 11-19-2009 I beg to differ I am afraid, they lump too many species together. I follow Sterba 2003. Oliva sp from Cuba - marlo - 11-19-2009 OK, you can differ.  No need to beg.  I don't bite.  At least we appear to agree this is the same shell.  Others seem to have an opinion too.  Gary Rosenberg (Malacolog) doesn't synonymize them, and in fact considers <i>O. bifasciata</i> to be a junior synonym of <i>O. formosa</i> Marrat 1870 along with <i>Oliva bollingi </i>Clench, 1934 <i>Oliva greenwayae </i>Clench, 1937 <i>Oliva pattersoni </i>Clench, 1945 <i>Oliva jenseni </i>Petuch & Sargent, 1986 <i>Oliva magdae </i>Petuch & Sargent, 1986 Take care,   Oliva sp from Cuba - dave r - 11-20-2009 I think we can both agree that a whole lot more work needs to be done with the Caribbean Oliva, maybe mitochondrial DNA sequencing will shed some light on the matter. Dave