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04-05-2009, 07:53 PM,
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Dear All,

I would like ask your help again.
I have some old shells what I identify earlier but I think yet it is not correct. (maybe Cypraea is not thersites, Conus is not ximenes) Please help try find the exact species.

Olds: <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674369" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674369">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674369</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674381" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674381">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674381</a><!-- m --></a>

The following shells allegedly are from Indonesia and I don’t get on with them.

<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674407" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674407">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674407</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674418" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674418">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674418</a><!-- m --></a>

<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674431" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674431">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674431</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674440" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674440">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674440</a><!-- m --></a>

<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674447" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674447">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674447</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674451" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674451">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674451</a><!-- m --></a>

Maybe Pustularia cicercula?
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674455" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674455">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674455</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674461" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674461">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674461</a><!-- m --></a>

Unfortunatelly I don’t know where are they from

First maybe Oxystele sp., third Cypraea capensis ?
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674483" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674483">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674483</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674532" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674532">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674532</a><!-- m --></a>

<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674584" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674584">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674584</a><!-- m --></a> <a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674592" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674592">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674592</a><!-- m --></a>

<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674623" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674623">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5674623</a><!-- m --></a>

I would be grateful every idea.

Thank you in advance.

Regards,

Mark
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04-06-2009, 02:24 PM,
#2
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I'll do my best but will have to get back to some of these later, unless someone else attacks them in the meantime.  I can give you a few ID's and a lot of "maybe's".

Picture 1
Top row - These all look like they could be the European Cerithium vulgatum, except the last one, which is Cerithium coralium.
The Cypraea is an immature specimen, in which the adult pattern has not yet formed. The elongate shape suggests Cypraea eglantina.
The Conus is called Conus blanfordianus by Rockel & Korn (Manual of the Living Conidae), but Poppe (Philippine Marine Shells) assigns that name to a different species, which Rockel calls Conus zapatosensis.  So I am not certain of the correct name.

Picture 2
#1 and 2 appear to be Oliva lignaria. The other Oliva I am not sure about, perhaps Oliva tremulina chrysoides.  Right Top is a Gyrineum, quite worn but perhaps Gyrineum cuspidatum.  The Conus is too worn to make a definite ID.  Was trying to come up with a suggestion based just on shape, but I can't think of anything likely.

Picture 3
#1 - Pyrene punctata.  The rest of the top row look like Oliva sidelia, and the last two in the bottom row may be that species as well.  The other four (white) Oliva ... #1 maybe Oliva multiplicata, or Oliva nitidula; #2 Odd looking spire and protoconch, but can't place it; #3 maybe Oliva annulata; #4 maybe Oliva lignaria.

Picture 4 - probably a Hipponyx species

Picture 5 - The one on the right is probably Cypraea cicercula.  The one on the left is rather elongate for that species, and the teeth rather coarse. There are several similar species in this group, differentiated on fine characteristics, which are not visible in shells this worn.

Picture 6
#1  Oxystele sinensis
#2  Melapium lineatum
#3  Cypraea capensis, immature

Picture 7 - will try this one later

Picture 8 - Rapana bezoar  <span class="petit">--Last edited by Paul Monfils on 2009-04-06 06:27:58 --</span>
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04-09-2009, 01:47 PM,
#3
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Hello Paul,

Thanks for your help (yout “maybe’sâ€
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01-10-2010, 07:03 PM,
#4
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Hi,

Is it possible on the 7th picture the third shell from left in bottom row a Turridrupa bijubata?

Regards,

Mark
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