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Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
07-15-2008, 04:16 PM,
#1
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
Hi everyone. I need help identifying these shells that have been in my cabinet for a decade now. I know cowries, cones and others but not bivalves and some gastropods.

Could you also tell me the world record for a Phalium glaucum?

And last favor, could you also tell me the market price for each of them? I don't want to be givin away expensive shells. I also believe there is a ban against collecting certain species of bivalves but I'm not a poacher. <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />  I had these long long time ago.

Just follow the links and the descrïption for each is the size.
Thanks guys.

clam 1
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995595" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995595">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995595</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995646" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995646">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995646</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 3
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995653" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995653">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995653</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 4
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995662" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995662">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995662</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 5
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995667" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995667">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995667</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 6
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995680" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995680">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995680</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 7
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995686" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995686">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995686</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 8
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995715" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995715">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995715</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 9
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995723" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995723">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995723</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 10
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995732" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995732">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995732</a><!-- m --></a>
clam 12
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996111" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996111">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996111</a><!-- m --></a>
pecten 1
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995741" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995741">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995741</a><!-- m --></a>
pecten 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995743" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995743">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995743</a><!-- m --></a>
pecten 3
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995748" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995748">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995748</a><!-- m --></a>
tun
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995920" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995920">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995920</a><!-- m --></a>
mitre 1
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995931" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995931">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995931</a><!-- m --></a>
mitre 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995942" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995942">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995942</a><!-- m --></a>
melo 1
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995957" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995957">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995957</a><!-- m --></a>
melo 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995971" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995971">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995971</a><!-- m --></a>
murex small
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995992" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995992">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3995992</a><!-- m --></a>
fulgoraria
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996006" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996006">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996006</a><!-- m --></a>
cockle
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996018" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996018">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996018</a><!-- m --></a>
small shell
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996031" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996031">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996031</a><!-- m --></a>
big murex
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996040" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996040">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996040</a><!-- m --></a>
big shell 1
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996043" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996043">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996043</a><!-- m --></a>
big shell 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996048" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996048">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996048</a><!-- m --></a>
pearlized
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996119" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996119">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996119</a><!-- m --></a>
bolma?
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996126" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996126">http://www.badongo.com/pic/3996126</a><!-- m --></a>
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07-16-2008, 09:07 AM,
#2
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
clam 1 - Hippopus hippopus

clam 2 - Tridacna sp., probably Tridacna maxima but can't be certain from this angle of view

clam 3 - Tridacna squamosa

clam 4 - Tridacna crocea

clam 5 - Limidae, not the best angle of view for an ID but I believe it is Ctenoides ales

clam 6 - Pinctada sp., probably Pinctada margaritifera

clam 7 - Hyotissa hyotis

clam 8 - Acesta rathbuni

clam 9 - Codakia tigerina

clam 10 - Trachycardium sp., probably Trachycardium enode

clam 12 - Tridacna sp., possibly a small Tridacna gigas, but again this is not an ideal view for ID

Pecten 1,2,3 - Probably all color forms of Chlamys senatorius

tun - Tonna galea

miter 1 - Mitra mitra

miter 2 - Mitra eremitarum

melo 1 - Melo broderippii

melo 2 - Melo broderippii - the young ones often have these strong markings, the big ones don't

murex small - looks like Chicomurex venustulus

fulgoraria - Fulgoraria hamillei (Did you list the size correctly for this? 214 mm would be possible world record size.)

cockle - Corculum cardissa

small shell - Nerita exuvia

big murex - Chicoreus ramosus

big shell 1 and 2 - Pleuroploca trapezium

pearlized - the sculpture suggests Astraea caelata

bolma - I think it may be a Bolma girgyllus with most of the spines broken off??  <span class="petit">--Last edited by Paul Monfils on 2008-07-16 01:14:58 --</span>
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07-16-2008, 12:33 PM,
#3
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
Hi Paul! The world is so fortunate to have someone like you.  <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" /> Thank you so much for your help. And your reply was so fast even. <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />

Yes Paul, the fulgoraria is 214mm. My calipers is only upto 160mm. I measured it again 213mm-214mm. I have two of those, the other one is 200mm. They look similar but the other one is lighter and the pattern is not so vivid.
fulgoraria 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4002911" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4002911">http://www.badongo.com/pic/4002911</a><!-- m --></a>

Here some more angles of clam 2
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003055" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003055">http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003055</a><!-- m --></a>
<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003074" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003074">http://www.badongo.com/pic/4003074</a><!-- m --></a>


Thank you so much Paul.

Chris
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07-16-2008, 01:08 PM,
#4
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
btw Paul, how does fulgoraria hamillei differ from a fulgoraria ericarum? I saw a specimen that looks like the one I have and it is labeled fulgoraria ericarum. Thank you again. <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />
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07-16-2008, 01:54 PM,
#5
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
Yes, your shell actually is "ericarum".  I forgot about that one because I use Poppe & Goto's volute book, and ericarum isn't in it since it was described in 1998 and the book was published in 1992. The only difference I can see between ericarum and hamillei is the color pattern, which is not a valid basis for naming a species, so I wonder if ericarum should be considered a form of hamillei. There may be other differences though.  I will have to try to find a detailed descrïption of ericarum.  In any case, your shell is that form/species.

Clam 2 is definitely Tridacna maxima.
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07-16-2008, 05:41 PM,
#6
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
Ok thanks so much Paul!  <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />  <img src="images/smiley/clap.gif" alt="" border="0" />
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07-16-2008, 06:10 PM,
#7
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
btw Paul, I found another ericarum on George Sangiouloglou's website and it says Ex. World Record size. It is 208mm and being sold for $800. (I had no idea it is worth that much.hahaha) I was trying to email him about my specimen but can't get it through. <img src="images/smiley/frown.gif" alt="" border="0" /> Just wanted to tell him about my 214mm specimen. I almost gave it to a friend for $15. If my ericarum is the world record size, i don't what do with it. It will stay in my cabinet for awhile longer probably.   <img src="images/smiley/lol.gif" alt="" border="0" />
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07-16-2008, 06:24 PM,
#8
Help me identify these bivalves, etc. please guys
Oh perhaps "Ex. World Record" size meant it was once the world record size. I just wonder what the current record size is. My specimen is then "worthless"  <img src="images/smiley/confused.gif" alt="" border="0" />

Would you also know the world record size for Ancistrolepis vietnamensis? I've seen alot on the internet and nothing came close to my 118mm specimen. I just labeled it Giant and kept it in my cabinet. The closest I've seen so far is a 109mm.  <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />  I ask a lot of questions, huh.  Wink
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