shell id help

[matias79gr]

hi,

just found and just register in the site!!

am happy that i found a site like that!! is perfect!! <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />

i need a help for a shell,

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i'd like to know the name,and if its....eatable <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />

thank you for the help!!

matias  <span class="petit">--Last edited by matias79gr on 2008-11-30 18:38:11 --</span>

[mauro]

Both are Charonia variegata (Lamarck 1816).
The mediterranean Charonia is edible, so also the carribean species my be.
Mauro  <span class="petit">--Last edited by mauro on 2008-11-30 21:01:31 --</span>

[matias79gr]

yes,its mediterranean Charonia...i guess..i live and i found it in Greece. <img src="images/smiley/smile.gif" alt="" border="0" />

thank you very much for your help!

[mauro]

Charonia variegata (or Charonia tritonis variegata) live in Carribe and in eastern Mediterranean. I thought you are from Carribe!!
However warning, in Mediterranean it is protected.
Mauro

[matias79gr]

yes...i read it a while ago that is protected...didnt now that.didnt even now the name...thats why i was interested about.
dont like destroying the nature...
and even if something is not protected am not picking it up from the sea if i already have one.

is anywere a list for protected sea life?
or catalog with names and photos?

[mauro]

Caronia tritonis variegata is protected by international Convention on the Conservation of European Wildlife and Natural Habitats (Bern, 19.IX.1979).
You can find it at: <a href="http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/104.htm" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/104.htm">http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Tr ... ml/104.htm</a><!-- m --></a>
The protectet mollusca are very few:
Patella ferruginea Gmelin, 1791
Gibbula nivosa A.Adams, 1851
Dendropoma petraeum (Monterosato,1884)
Erosaria spurca (Linnaeus, 1758)
Luria lurida (Linnaeus, 1758)
Schilderia achatidea (Gray in G.B. Sowerby II, 1837)
Zonaria pyrum (Gmelin, 1791)
Tonna galea (Linnaeus, 1758)
Ranella olearia (Linnaeus, 1758)
Charonia lampas (Linnaeus, 1758)
Charonia tritonis variegata (Lamarck, 1816)
Mitra zonata Marryat, 1818
Helix pomatia Linnaeus, 1758
Microcondylaea compressa Menke, 1828
Unio elongatus C.Pfeiffer, 1825
Pholas dactylus Linnaeus, 1758
In Italy sometime pecuniary penalties are inflict for collection of these species, I dont know if there is control in Greece.
Nevertheless many of these species are common.  <span class="petit">--Last edited by mauro on 2008-11-30 21:19:06 --</span>

[matias79gr]

lot of useful information!! thanks !!

i think here it works different..you are not allowed to take almost any shell that is alive...if they find you there is a fine..but i thin they are more interested for penalties about fish.

and its very common here to pick up Patella ferruginea..and they are plenty of them!!

on the other hand the last few years you are not allowd to collect erchins...not even one...restaurants used to pick and serve them...and almost vanished them.