acanthus? weather worn shell?

[wil9000]

I would like to ask for help identifying the following 2 shells.
Both are from a box of Murex. The first had a piece of paper in it that said simply "Acanthus", but this hasn't helped.
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The second looks like a Black Murex to me, but every surface is rounded evenly. It doesn't look weathered to me, just strange.

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<a href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5818013" target="_blank"><!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.badongo.com/pic/5818013">http://www.badongo.com/pic/5818013</a><!-- m --></a>

Thank you for your help

[paul monfils]

The first is Neorapana muricata, from West Central America.  The second is Vasum turbinellum, from the Indo-Pacific region.